I'm No Lolita

Mar 11 2009 Published by under Uncategorized

First and foremost, I have to shout out the homey JG for inspiring this post with her piece on Cougars, The Hunted Becomes the Hunter over at Rants of a Wild Child.  Between reading the post and a text message exchange I had with a 35+ male friend of mine, I began to understand my dating habits. I rarely date anyone more than two years older than me. And every man I’ve been intimate with has been anywhere from a few months to a year and a half younger than me.   

It’s not that I cannot attract older men. I’ve drawn quite a few handsome, intelligent and very established brothers. The kind of eligible bachelors that a mid20something like myself should be anxious to settle down with, correct? I’ve been taken to great restaurants, offered a few all-expenses paid trips, even had one cook me dinner complete with good wine.  Unfortunately for these fellas, I’ve enjoyed sitting on CJ’s couch, reading a book with my feet in his lap as he plays NBA 2K9 more than any of these occasions. 

Thanks for the gift, but can we turn on to the game now?

Thanks for the gift, but can we turn to the game now?

The older men that have tried to pursue me have all ultimately tried to do one of two things that I find wholly unattractive: 1.) woo me and  2.) teach/advise me.

I do not like to be wooed, especially if I’m just getting to know a guy. So pulling out any romantic stops for a first date is a no-no. Candlelight dinners, soft music… No and no. You’d better order a pizza,  turn on a basketball game and stay on your end of the couch if you want me to consider seeing you again. I like the laid back approach of guys my age and slightly younger when it comes to dating. It doesn’t feel all “date-y” but like two homies just chillin’, whether we’re at a movie or out for drinks or watching a game.  If I have yet to relate to a man on a homey level, then I won’t relate to him on a romantic level.  The older men that I’ve encountered don’t get this. I don’t know if they’re used to older women who enjoy more romance up front or if they think they’re giving themselves an advantage over the tenderonies. Either way, wooing me too soon is an EPIC FAIL in my book. 

I detest being taught if I don’t ask for a lesson. I’m hard-headed and feel that my way is the best way of doing things for myself until I find a better way. Period.  In my experience, older guys are always “tryna learn ya something.”  I thought it was cute in the beginning when a certain guy took me to a bookstore and picked out books by black intellectuals that he thought I should read. After awhile, though I felt as if I was being molded into something that didn’t fit me.  Did I mind riding around in a luxury car listening to NPR? Not really. But am I more comfy in my dented ’04 Lancer bumpin T.I.? Sure am.  More truth about me: I despise the word should. My actions are divided into three categories: what I’ve done, what I’m doing and what I’m going to do, all of which I get around to on my own damn pace without coersion or unsolicited advice. So older dudes attempting to get in good by utilizing the teacher/mentor role? FAIL FAIL FAIL. 

I’ve had men and women alike tell me that my decision to steer clear of older fellas is a dating mistake.  I’ve heard “You know men mature slower than we do,” and “These young dudes aren’t ready to settle down.” I’ve even had someone say, “I don’t like younger men with evolved women.”  I guess I must pick from the Cream of the Youngn’ Crop because most guys I’ve dated have been smart enough to keep up with me and challenge me when need be. They’ve had fairly good taste in entertainment (I raise an occasional brow at some of CJ’s stuff but he knows good music so it’s cool). All were goal oriented and behaved appropriately for their age. Add to all of this the fact that I’m not husband shopping at all and you’ve got a young lady with a pretty happy dating life sanz the older “sophisticated” type.

So while the other girls are having their fun flirting with the big boys, I’m perfectly content to play in my own sandbox. Hey babe, pass me a shovel ;-)

31 responses so far

  • jg14

    *2 snaps in the air*

    Bravo!

  • Royal Empress

    Well I guess to each his or should I say her own…

    I would have to say that I am totally the opposite..I will be 23 next week and while I do attract younger, same age and older guys I realized that I am not attracted to the younger or same age guys…

    I do agree with the wooing on the first set of dates and the “Just cuz I’m older I know and U don’t” Shyt

  • http://www.mebeinganonymous.blogspot.com Tracy Truesdale

    GET OUTTA MY HEAD!! I thought I was the only one who cringed when a ‘gentleman’ attemtped to get my attention. Dated some attractive older men and didn’t understand why I wasn’t feeling them from the first date…all the fluff is a turn off and my wisdom is fine. I don’t need ‘advice’, Thanks.

    Two Thumbs Up for your topic!

  • http://mindofdujuan.blogspot.com David M.

    I like that approach Robin.

    At least you are honest with yourself and that is appreciated much from a guy like me.

  • http://freewebs.com/glennisham glennishamorgan

    In my past life I never dated “older” men. I mean the guys were always older than me but, not on a suga daddy or I’m enough to be yo daddy tip. I remember this one time I said I’d give it a try at “talking” to an older man. I’mma be honest the only reason why he was around was because he was a journalist and I figured I could at least take some tips career wise. Dude had bought me a blazer for work and it was downhill from there. He was the posterchild for “bugaboo”. Calling my job, coming up to my job, emailing me at email accts that I never gave him. On some serious crazy type shit. So ummm yea even though I’ve never really have been attracted to men the old geezer type damn sure creeped me out and especially after that one.

  • http://karrieb.blogspot.com karrie b.

    man fuckkk

    i clicked on ur link and i saw the very top of the pic you posted and swore it was the head of a penus.

    this is a problem.

    anywhoo, on 1 hand…guys my age are great bc we have more in common. prob is they barely have any sense.

    older guys wanna be your daddy, but they do offer a lil more stability and have a bit more sense…

    iono. its a toss up. but in terms of my non-existent love life, beggers cant really be choosers

    -kb

    • http://www.robinmonique.wordpress.com Robin Monique

      KB, get some. Soon. Please. Haha.

  • http://blackbacchus.com Black Bacchus

    Good post. This is coming from what you’d probably consider to be an older man. However, most of what you have said is based from hearsay and the idea that people are supposed to be doing a particular thing at a particular age. I’m 33 and moved to DC ten years ago. Since then I have travelled around the world, loved, lost and learned. I am a more worldly and knowledgeble person from such experiences. At 23 I was a selfish, insensitive asshole. I have gotten much better since. Maybe the fact that you like young dudes reveals a certain lack of worldly training. I had a relationship with a lady twenty years my elder, and that worked out because we had knowledge of each other’s culture. Ultimately, you’re gonna like what you are going to like, but you cannot dismiss someone based from a myopic summerization of what people “like them” are supposed to do. Also, you can’t choose when you’re going to get life’s lessons you just get them. That’s one of the problems of the youth. If someone older than you is passing on wisdom, attempting to give you an advantage in the form of vicariousness, it could be an advantage to listen. But hey, I’m just a worldly travelling, balling type of guy with a diverse pallette. Very well written though.

    • http://www.robinmonique.wordpress.com Robin Monique

      Thank you for your comment. You just provided some excellent support for my dating choices.

      • http://blackbacchus.com Black Bacchus

        Haha. I like how I got brushed under the rug. Anyhow, just don’t think you’re at the apex of your life in your 20s. It only gets better… well, if you’re not a lame it does… Challah!

      • http://www.robinmonique.wordpress.com Robin Monique

        Of course I know it gets better as I get older. But knowing me, I’ll turn into a full blown cougar by my 30s!

    • mzfatbooty

      I’m older, 31, but I feel the same way about older men. I hate being “taught” anything by someone I am supposedly equal with. Give me advice WHEN IT’S ASKED FOR and not just offer it. On the flip side, I do like some romance–casual, unpretentious–like going to a dimly lit lounge for drinks. However, I will vomit if me and my date arrive at some cliched romantic spot (or the Buckhead restaurant hotspot of the moment). I like romance, but my threshold is low.

      For me, the perfect age for a guy is 25. I’ll go up to 30…and maybe down to 24 on occasion. *shrug* good to know I’m not some dirty old woman…

      and as for Black Bacchus: sounds like you were doing the “oh young grasshopper, wait until you get older, you’ll understand” thing. To that, I say HMPH!

  • http://theantoniachronicles.blogspot.com Toni

    I’m like Royal Empress and prefer older guys to younger ones. I’m 24 but have an “old soul” which might account for it. I want to be wooed and I think it’s starting to be a lost art form. But I agree it doesn’t need to happen immediately. Get to know me first and then we’ll take it from there. In most cases guys my age or slightly younger were the ones who brought all the wooing out from day one. The older gents seemed to be more seasoned and smooth. I also enjoy having someone help expand my horizons. However I’m not a fan of Mr. Know-it-Alls.

    • http://www.robinmonique.wordpress.com Robin Monique

      I think I may be the only girl I know who doesn’t really enjoy wooing or big romantic gestures. Romance to me is taking my car for an oil change. If he fills up the gas tank on the way back, I’ll throw my panties at him.

  • Stephanie

    It’s funny when a older guy “tries” to school you. I don’t need your advice, I will learn on my own in all good time. Who doesn’t know how to cook, clean and iron pants? C’mon, that’s what we have mothers, aunts and sisters for. :)

    When I date an older guy, he’s definitely not getting any action until 3-6 months of knowing him. If you want me that bad honey, you have to wait until I’m ready to give you my goodies.

  • http://www.djednice.com DJ Ed Nice

    I guess that means my 31 year old butt can’t teach you how to play Madden 09 while you’re sitting on the other end of the couch with your stinky feet in my lap & me reading John McWhorter lmaoooo….

    Oh well… I’m glad I didn’t my hopes up too far… lol

    • http://www.robinmonique.wordpress.com Robin Monique

      Wow. And John McWhorter was definitely one of the authors an older guy tried to put me up on! haha.

  • slimjackson

    This post is great. I actually read it twice. I’m snapping my fingers…and I never snap my fingers. Slim salutes you!

  • http://www.mommylonglegs.blogspot.com wynsters the tigress

    robin, it’s a toss-up for me. sometimes you meet older guys who act just like the younger guys do. i think what it comes down to is straight up compatibility. good post though!

  • http://myfuturerocks.blogspot.com 1/3

    meh I kinda like older guys cause I have an old spirit or whateva my friends say. I do admit when i sorta talked to a younger cutie he kept me on my toes and it was alot of fun hanging with him but in a relationship…I’m gonna have to pass lol.

    But I feel you on 30 something so called gentlemens…I’m not ready for that either. A happy medium is always nice.

  • http://www.shesoflyy.blogspot.com Muze

    girl.

    let.me.tell.you.

    i was on an older guy kick for a good minute. and when i say older, i mean… 41, 36, 34… those were just casual dating though. and you’re right, they were always trying to school me or teach me (some of which i gained valuable knowledge, can’t front.. but mostly i just did a bunch of head nodding and eye-rolling. lol) or trying to BUY me for some reason. i can’t be bought. period. that’s what irked me the most. if i wanted a sugar daddy, i would have discussed that beforehand and that would have been our situation.

    i’m 27 so i have now decided that 30-31ish is my limit. my last serious relationship was with someone who is 32, and although it wasn’t a problem at first, i soon realized that he was at a point in his life that i hadn’t quite reached yet, and was flagrantly trying to turn me into something that i’m not and won’t ever be on top of that. so yeah, i’m going to stick to the 20-somethings until i reach the 30-somethings. 2-3 years is enough for me, especially since i’m at the age where i meet intelligent, ‘established’ evolved black men quite often.

    great post of course. you were made to write, girl. if i lived in Cleveland i’d put in an app! lmao.

  • http://www.shesoflyy.blogspot.com Muze

    and that picture… how perfect is it?

    and um, LMAO at KB.

  • http://eriethoughts.blogspot.com mp1

    That pic looks like its straight from the Black version of “Guess who’s coming to dinner?”, not the B-Mac version, but a true remake. lol

  • http://www.utterhip.com utterhip

    I love your clear thoughts about this matter.

  • http://www.loveisaminefield.blogspot.com bloggal

    i’m so seeing your point here. but i don’t know…i think since i’ve had so much bad experience with young guys who don’t know what the hell they want, i’m more attracted to older ones. no daddy age, but a good 3-4 years older than me. although i PREFER a dude my age, they have a lot of growing to do. and i’m just not patient enough anymore to sit around waiting for them to figure out what they want. but like kb said, it’s a toss up. oh, and i def scrolled to the top of the page to see if dude’s head looked like a penis. it did.

    anyway, bravo once again. great post:)

    • http://www.robinmonique.wordpress.com Robin Monique

      Yeah, but “older” guys for you are still in the same decade yrs (20s). Men in their 30s are a whole ‘nother matter.

  • http://www.herjourneymag.com Miss Journey

    I’m with you! I don’t mind the wooing as much as I can’t stand the guys who try to marry you: those guys who tell you within the first few encounters how they are looking for a wife and you seem like a good fit. It seems to have the opposite effect on me. It makes me run in the other direction, screaming “AAAHHHH! I’M TOO YOUNG TO GET MARRIED!”

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  • monieinthemiddle

    Girl…agreed and agreed! You read my mind on this one here…

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